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#1 Traveller

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 01:50 PM

There are signs on the London bound platform showing where the various lengths of train are meant to stop but drivers of four car trains regularly stop at the South end of the platform leaving the commuters at the rear rushing to get into a crowded last carriage. Alternatively short trains stop somewhere between the four and six car stopping points. Is this anything to do with the construction at the North end or is it just the drivers having a bit of fun?

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 02:50 PM

There is an ongoing disscusion about this. It is believed by the union that to conform to LUL's requirements all Chiltern trains should use the same stopping mark as the Met's regardless of length. However whilst the Chiltern trains still have their own markers up some drivers use these.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:10 PM

There is an ongoing disscusion about this. It is believed by the union that to conform to LUL's requirements all Chiltern trains should use the same stopping mark as the Met's regardless of length. However whilst the Chiltern trains still have their own markers up some drivers use these.


Not sure there will be an easy answer as the system will have to cope with trains of different lengths.

In many cases if marker points could be made so the back of the train is always at the busiest part of the platofrm, that would make life eaiser for passengers, but this would mean a large number of stopping points and they would not have the TV screens to help the driver spot all is clear.


Other problems happen when a train that is say usually 5 cars arrives and it is 4, causing a mad rush down the platform by those pasengers who wia tin their usual place.

As I say, no easy answer I can think of, unless an announcement is made before the train arrives as to its length. This happens on London Midland (usually) but I doubt if getting Chiltern train control talking to LU train control in a timely manner so announcements can be made in time is possible.
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Posted 19 November 2009 - 07:38 PM

Do Chiltern trains have guards? If so they can stop where they want and the guard will see the train leaves safely.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 10:37 AM

leaving the commuters at the rear rushing to get into a crowded last carriage.

Yes I remember this mad dash well in the morning when I used to travel to Marylebone! :) Do the Chiltern line train drivers use the monitors at the end of the platform to check the safe closure of the their doors, before departing?Is this part of the reason they travel to the end of the platform?Surely the staff at Great Missenden know the train is shorter and could warn Amersham staff.Or perhaps even further back on the line they could inform staff/passengers.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 09:04 PM

Do Chiltern trains have guards? If so they can stop where they want and the guard will see the train leaves safely.


Chiltern have been Driver Only Operation since long before the changeover from Network SouthEast.