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#31 David P

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

Amersham hill is one bad spot for this, there are two national speed limit applies signs yet drivers continue to do 25 - 30mph down there. Would you drive at 30mph on a motorway? No you wouldn't, so why do it here? There are two signs, white with black stripe, one on each side of the road... look at them! It's frustrating enough trying to get through the terrible traffic outside the beacon school at 8am, only to be held up by captain slow down the hill as well.

as I already said

And often there is just no point in driving at the speed limit. For example, what is the point of going up to 60 down Amersham Hill into Chesham,, when you know perfectly well that there will be a queue at the bottom?


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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:32 PM

No queue at the bottom of the hill at 8am.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:36 AM

No queue at the bottom of the hill at 8am.

8am at the weekend, try 17:30 on a weekday.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:20 PM

Don't forget that it's a speed limit, not a target!

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:59 AM

It's approximately half a mile between the speed signs which suggests that the difference between driving at 60mph and 30mph is a saving of 30 seconds. However, travelling at 60mph, you wouldn't have time to take in the ever-changing woodland, the farm animals on the left and the valley over the christmas tree plantation as you zoom down the hill. But, with only a mere 86400 seconds available in a day, you won't have wasted 30 of them.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:09 AM

I like to sleep for as many of those seconds as possible. I'm not sure you can include them in your equation.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:49 PM

Driving in 4th gear instead of 5th, would you kindly work out the difference in fuel used over the course of a month?

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:35 PM

If I drive at 45mph on the motorway, how much fuel would that save me?
I'm assuming it is acceptable to drive at 45mph on the motorway because 70mph is not a target, it's the limit !

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:13 PM

I think this is just one of those things where people will always disagree. I drive down the hill into chesham as many as 2-3 times a day and always try to zoom down. Im driving to get somewhere not take in the scenery that i see 3 times a day every day.

And knowing me I am always in a rush so will be hurrying somewhere or another and it does frustrate me if people dont speed up when the speed limit changes.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:57 PM

And there's the point that many seem to be missing or ignoring. You're entitled to drive at the speed limit and within reason, someone driving slower than the speed limit, holding you up MIGHT be guilty of driving without consideration for other road users.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:23 PM

If I drive at 45mph on the motorway, how much fuel would that save me?
I'm assuming it is acceptable to drive at 45mph on the motorway because 70mph is not a target, it's the limit !

If the road conditions, car maintainance and visibility are good then driving at 45mph on a motorway is dangerous. If you don't want to drive at 70mph in good visibility then stick to side roads with lower speed limits and where you are less likely to be involved or cause an accident.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:29 PM

If the road conditions, car maintainance and visibility are good then driving at 45mph on a motorway is dangerous. If you don't want to drive at 70mph in good visibility then stick to side roads with lower speed limits and where you are less likely to be involved or cause an accident.


You are aware i was being sarcastic?

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:34 PM

You are aware i was being sarcastic?


God forbid that the moderators on this forum deviate from what is right and proper!!! Lol :ph34r:
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:46 PM

God forbid that the moderators on this forum deviate from what is right and proper!!! Lol :ph34r:


My point is the same as PaulEden and Eaton although in different words.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:47 PM

You are aware i was being sarcastic?

Nope I wasn't but I'm jetlagged so I'll use that as my excuse.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:19 PM

And there's the point that many seem to be missing or ignoring. You're entitled to drive at the speed limit and within reason, someone driving slower than the speed limit, holding you up MIGHT be guilty of driving without consideration for other road users.


At last we agree on something :D

although quite what the driver was on who was going down woodside road at 5.40am wednesday at 15mph is anyones guess. I easily overtook them doing 30 and the road was completely clear, ie no ice.

You're not upsetting people again are you mel? :rolleyes: ;)

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

You're not upsetting people again are you mel? :rolleyes: ;)

It would appear so!
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:31 PM

If the road conditions, car maintainance and visibility are good then driving at 45mph on a motorway is dangerous. If you don't want to drive at 70mph in good visibility then stick to side roads with lower speed limits and where you are less likely to be involved or cause an accident.

It's perfectly OK to drive at 56mph on the motorways.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:16 PM

It's perfectly OK to drive at 56mph on the motorways.


I do it all the time. :)

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 09:03 PM

I do it all the time. :)

So do I when the traffic dictates!
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:03 AM

between junctions 21 and 23 of the M25, 56mph is breaking the speed limit :P

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:09 AM

It's perfectly OK to drive at 56mph on the motorways.

If you like having an artic a foot or so from your exhaust.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:55 PM



Not a Crown Taxi, as far as I'm aware, Not sure who is worse, the scooter with his non working brake lights or the taxi who decides an undertake is the best manoeuvre.

Note how the scooter brakes on the speed camera markings. The speed limit here is 50, but it's not unusual for drivers to slow down here just because there's a speed camera even though they aren't speeding.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:39 PM

Reminds me of the car I followed on the A414 out of Hemel once. He was carefully driving dead on the 40mph speed limit. Beside the speed camera near the top of the hill he makes an emergency break application, drives over the speed camera markings at 30 and then accelerates back up to the speed limit.

I try to drive at a safe distance but it was still a bit of a "brown trouser" moment.

Compare the car I followed once doing a steady 30 in a 50 limit (too much oncoming traffic to overtake). When we reached a 30 limit he suddenly floored the accelerator and vanished over the horizon.

Around here its the ones who don't want to get their 4*4s muddy, stop in the middle of a passing place in a single track road with 3/4 of a car width either side and wait for you to back up.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:54 PM

The car in the video does not appear to have a taxi licence plate so I doubt that it is a taxi or private hire vehicle.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

The car in the video does not appear to have a taxi licence plate so I doubt that it is a taxi or private hire vehicle.


Yes, it is. See the TfL roundel in the rear window.

Just like this chap who despite my being halfway into the outside lane to go around the broken down car, is so desperate to get in front of me, decides to mount the central reservation.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:11 PM

Yes, it is. See the TfL roundel in the rear window.


Ah yes, you're right but not a Chiltern taxi driver. We must have hackney/private hire plates displayed on the outside and inside of the vehicle.

The first video, is that the A312?
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:18 PM

Yes, both videos are from the A312.

I'm afraid to say the standard of taxi driving in that area is appalling. About a quarter of the videos I keep (ie, ones that are interesting) feature taxi drivers.

Clearly this has nothing to do with your chaps, who I, by and large, have nothing but respect for, but you can see how the trade might get a bad reputation.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

Yes, it is. See the TfL roundel in the rear window.

That indicates that it is NOT a taxi (hackney carriage) but is registered for private hire (minicab) in Greater London.
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 05:23 PM

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